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Stratus - give Eric a break. The "holding back" and t e Ed/Danielle love thing were both other people's suggestions.

ED dug himself a massive hole and I feel sorry for Danielle.

I don't. She not only encouraged Ed, she gave him suggestions/requests of who to intimidate.

all this was on Sho feeds.
Sarge
6:45:57 AM
8/10/07

that Eric dude is too much man...the Showtime feeds and HamsterWatch 24/7 feeds on YouTube give you the real picture of this dope. I don't even want hear what Eric has to say....the sooner he's off the better and those other morons will then see the light.

I didn't see where Dani gave orders to ED about intimidation but if you saw it then that ain't right....however, my bet is still on Dani.....she's smokin'!!

It appears for now that ED and Dani are going up on the block.....
stratusloop
6:57:53 AM
8/10/07

You do realize that 90% of the shadey stuff he's been accused of directly relates to the fact he's America's Player, right? He HAS to lie about that stuff and spin based on the lies he is forced to tell. Another 8%, from what I've seen, has been taken out of context. The 2% left could be said of anybody in there.

It's funny how everybody lies to some extent on there, but when somebody else does they flip out. IT'S A GAME ABOUT LYING!! Ed says he always tells the truth but he's full of crap.

I do agree that Eric is an a$s when he doesn't like somebody. I don't like how he is unforgiving and basically ignores people he doesn't like. It reminds me of middle school (I'm pretty sure most high schoolers were past that stage in my school). But I certainly wouldn't say he's being more of a dick than anybody else in the house. If anything, the "Christians" piss me off more than anybody due to their non-understanding of basic Biblical concepts. I think CBS chose them for their naivity on purpose, but that's just my opinion.
Sarge
7:04:55 AM
8/10/07

Well being a devout Christian, I would much rather leave that out of the equation. God really doesn't care about BB....or ping pong balls or whatever. Its not the place for it....and in the words of Forrest Gump...that's all have to say about that...

Yes I completely understand the concept of America's Player but he and ED for that matter, don't have to insert the "F" word after every other word. What's the point? I don't tolerate people in real life doing it, so why would I want to watch it? And Eric says stuff like ED f-ing his daughter....that's crossing the line way too far dude....
stratusloop
7:19:33 AM
8/10/07

I liked how Amber was chewing Eric out with every other word having to be bleeped and she keeps pointer her finger at Eric while she's cussing up a blue streak with her W.W.J.D? bracelet on. LOL! What a hypocrite.
Nigal
1:52:44 PM
8/10/07

Nigal calling people in a game a hypocrite?! Did you forget calling out one of your fellow trailtalkers SH88 just that last month for propping their intelligence above others and saying you would never do that, even though you had done that less than 2 months prior? Maybe it's okay for you to be a hypocrite on here, but not in a televised game based on deception? That's rich! I've got more but you likely won't consider your own words anyways.

Nigal, little Amber admits to just becoming a Christian recently and admits she has a lot to learn and admits she isn't perfect. She's naive, and even didn't know what the word "adultery" means, yet you throw her under the bus - taking no consideration into your own hypocrisy. Is the mirror painful? I know it can be. If you need to talk about it, I'm here for you, seriously. Meanwhile, try to understand and forgive Amber. She's been through a lot.
Sarge
4:02:15 PM
8/10/07

Last week Jameka had to play for veto for Jen, because God wanted her to. This week she threw the comp, because she wanted money.

God has no place in such a shallow game.
last edited: 8/10/07 5:29:22 PM
bacpac
5:28:54 PM
8/10/07

bacpac, you're cracking me up dude...BB is a shallow game. That's too funny man. I have to admit I agree whole heartedly with that statement literally but its just the way you stated it....like all serious and whatnot...oy vey....LOL....
stratusloop
5:46:24 PM
8/10/07

God has a place everywhere regardless of how a naive young girl may misunderstand Him.
Sarge
5:47:19 PM
8/10/07

Sarge....no arguement from me dude...I actually applaud her for choosing the path of light and the truth found in God.
stratusloop
5:57:16 PM
8/10/07

Cool. I didn't see your post btw until after posting, I was responding to bacpac.

Seeing themselves afterwards hopefully will be a great learning opportunity for them!
Sarge
6:08:45 PM
8/10/07

Dang, I'm embarrassed for them all. The fight in the kitchen between the two posers and ED was funny yet went nowhere and ED came out more transparent than ever. I was really surprised the only person that wasn't afraid of Dick (head) and got up in his face was Dustin.
Nigal
6:14:33 PM
8/12/07

By that time most of them had decided to basically ignore ED, so I'm not so sure the others were actually afraid of him.
Sarge
7:04:27 PM
8/12/07

Its funny what the network ends up putting up...i've been watching the live feeds this past weekend and there was sooooo much they could've used and they put up what I was hoping, now they need to put up when Dick reveals that his Mom is an ordained Minister...

AP....right? He's not my player....what a dope this knucklehead is...Dingo aka Hamsterwatch shut his site down and I don't blame him....incest comments don't belong in the game....I did my part a filed a complaint to CBS....

I voted for Jessica like 8 or 10 times for Eric to give the silent treatment...


XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
SPOILER ALERT
XXXXXXXXXXXXX







Dick won POV

My guess, he'll give it to Danielle and if Eric can convince Jess to put up Dustin, then we could see that goof ball outta here...
stratusloop
7:27:56 PM
8/12/07

stratus - that whole group has been making those comments, not just Eric. I think it was Amber who started it, playing off some remarks that ED had made about petite blondes he'd like to bippity-bop.

Why do you think Dustin would leave over Danielle? I would think they'd be more interested in breaking up the "other side" than taking out one of their own, even if they don't entirely trust him. Who does anybody trust in that game?

It always cracks me up when somebody calls out somebody else for lying. The game is all about lying! LOL. Nobody plays it without lying. It's like poker on steroids. Even if you don't verbalize an out-and-out lie, you have to deceive the other players.
Sarge
4:55:02 AM
8/13/07

Sarge....well if Dick uses the pov on Danielle then Eric whose task is to get Dustin nominated will then barrage Jess to get him on the block and trick her into thinking there's no way that he would leave over Dick....then my guess is that America will want Dustin out over Dick.... so,IF Dustin were to go up against Dick, here's how I think it would play out...

Votes for Dick
Amber
Jameka

Votes for Dustin
Danielle
Jen
Zack
Eric

Hey,,,,a long shot but I would love to see it!
stratusloop
5:59:45 AM
8/13/07

You guys really, truly watch this stuff...or is this entire thread a satire (I really don't know, having cancelled my satellite months ago)?
Nimblefoot
6:04:15 AM
8/13/07

stratus - good point!

The only question is if Jess will be influenced by Eric, or if the rest of the group (Amber, Jameka) will convince her to put up Zack or Jen. My guess is Eric will give a half-a$sed attempt at convincing Jess.

If Eric convinces the group, you are definitely right!
Sarge
6:12:19 AM
8/13/07

Nimblefoot - sadly, we watch it. I have DVR though, so I end up watching 3 hours of show in about 1/2 hour each day, skipping commercials and non-game related chatter.
Sarge
6:14:32 AM
8/13/07

Nimble, I proudly admit I do indeed watch this stuff and totally dig this show....in fact, i'm like so whacked and micro-jaded, I watch the live feeds put up on YouTube.....
stratusloop
6:14:59 AM
8/13/07

It's okay by me, but I do find it comical. It reminds me of a group of housewives in the 50's discussing Soaps. Maybe I'm missing out and need to crank the satellite back up. Wait a minute, my new canoe shuttling gig centers around a bar. When I'm not busy driving touristas back and forth, I get to sit around and watch the locals and the urbanites get drunk and sort of try to tolerate each other. No man has a right to more entertainment than that. Ergo, no need for t.v.
Nimblefoot
6:32:02 AM
8/13/07

It's not worth getting the dish hooked back up for. It's more like wading in the shallow end of the gene pool and seeing what you find on the bottom..."Woah! Check it out! I found an over the hill rocker type! Oh and look here, I found another hypocrite christian!."
Nigal
11:50:24 AM
8/13/07

* snore *
Sarge
11:55:51 AM
8/13/07

Anybody catch that hateful Jew on there, Eric?

LOL



(please consider the context - just razzing our resident Jew who is pretending to ignore my posts because he'd have to admit he lied)
Sarge
12:01:26 PM
8/13/07

lol. I think the appeal for the show for me is that it's mildly entertaining and it's on 3 times a week in the summer when there's hardly anything else on.

I do feel bad for Eric, even though he's kind of a twit. America is crapping on any strategy he tries to run with. I don't watch Showtime much, but it appears that this week he may lose Jessica as a close "friend" in the game because of the crap he has to try and pull. He looked very p!ssed when he saw Dustin's name on the card for who to get nominated.
ductape
12:05:58 PM
8/13/07

People are definitely trying to screw him over.

But he should expect that being a Jew.
last edited: 8/13/07 12:26:34 PM
Sarge
12:26:18 PM
8/13/07

Well, America voted to have Eric give the silent treatment to Jess....ha ha...he doesn't like it a bit and the live feed this morning had him talking with Jess for a long time and i'd swear he was doing every thing he could to give her a "heads" up and I don't think she caught on....

Ya think Eric is catching on that America don't like his clique or him? He better catch on when America tells him to vote for whoever is sitting opposite of Dick.....and it won't be Dani because he's using the POV on her.....
last edited: 8/13/07 12:32:29 PM
stratusloop
12:30:27 PM
8/13/07

What happens if he just doesn't do what he's told? Is there an effort factor here? How lame of an attempt can he get away with?
ductape
12:32:12 PM
8/13/07

He doesn't have to do what America tells him to do. If he does it and he succeeds he gets $10K per challenge.
Nigal
12:33:33 PM
8/13/07

The only thing he "has" to do is abide by the eviction vote.....
stratusloop
12:35:35 PM
8/13/07

I think he's "encouraged" by CBS to be America's Player, although technically he doesn't have to do everything.

I'm still upset they didn't tell Hail or whatever her name was about Eric. What's up with that?
Sarge
12:41:06 PM
8/13/07

I did not know he's been making money this whole time.
ductape
12:43:58 PM
8/13/07

Yep...10 grand for each task completed...but he has no say about who America wants evicted......unless America evicts the person he dominated....
stratusloop
1:09:48 PM
8/13/07

I don't want to spoil it but things are working out the way I was hoping...........
stratusloop
3:40:50 PM
8/13/07

They often use the term "ws".

What does that mean?

example: "I could go hang out with them, but that would be 'ws'."
Sarge
5:29:18 AM
8/14/07

ws? no clue....i've never heard of it...
stratusloop
7:18:43 AM
8/14/07

yowza yowza yowza
Sarge
6:37:58 PM
8/16/07

***************
SPOILER ALERT
***************

Eric + Ed + Dani + Jess are in an alliance
Sarge
6:39:38 PM
8/16/07

What did I tell ya....Dustin...outta here!

Amber was nominated to be Eric's AP selection (I voted for Jess)...

Danielle got a sweet letter from Nick during HOH open house last night....
stratusloop
5:56:13 AM
8/17/07

Did her letter have anything about the game in it? I'd imagine they wouldn't let Nick put gameplay stuff in, like that Eric is AP.
Sarge
6:02:55 AM
8/17/07

The look on Dustin's face ... priceless.
Sarge
6:22:14 AM
8/17/07

No game play in the letter....Diary wouldn't allow that...they probably went over that with a fine tooth comb.....but Zach was mentioned. He and Danielle were hanging out in the HOH room and Zach read the letter....it was really fancy with all sorts of artwork on it....Nick put some effort into it and Zach was impressed.

Amber and Dani had a nice chat afterwards. Amber told Dani that she wouldn't be mad at her if she were put up on the block and that she would understand why but she feels really stupid and embarrassed about her game play to date....

Jess and Jameka were chatting about Eric....they're onto him but don't know exactly what it is....they're finally finally realizing his inconsistencies....if only they knew........

I was really hoping Eric spilled the beans on Dustin about his AP status but I realized Dustin is the first to be sequestered....so from here on, nobody will know until he's out.....
stratusloop
6:37:40 AM
8/17/07

I can't wait to watch last night, tonight. I'd like to see the letter thing.

Amber should feel stupid. She's got nothing, poor girl.
Sarge
6:42:40 AM
8/17/07

I wonder how much America was messing w/ Eric's gameplay affected his decision to side with the dark side. It's going to benefit him greatly to vote along with his alliance.
Sarge
7:23:22 AM
8/18/07

Jen and ED just got in a fight. Jen smacked ED, or came very close. They tried not to show it, but you could see it on the monitors. ED had blown smoke in her face after she had destroyed some of his cigarettes.
Sarge
9:12:23 PM
8/20/07

I think maybe she took a swing at his cig, so no smack.
Sarge
3:16:03 AM
8/21/07

Danielle wins POV
stratusloop
7:52:52 AM
9/04/07

interesting! - especially considering her recent "friendship" with Zack - who earlier wanted to backdoor Eric.

I suspect that's old news and not going to happen. What do you know stratus?
Sarge
7:54:25 AM
9/04/07

It looks like they're telling Jameka that she's the one going home but are planning to get rid of Jess so that it'll rattled Eric too much when they have the HOH comp right after....causing him to blow it. I think America will tell AP to vote Jameka leaving the fate of either one in the hands of Dani or Dick......

BTW, it looks like it'll be a double eviction night Thursday....

Eric won a "phone home" prize but gave it to Jess....she called home and talked to her brother who just got home from Iraq.

Jess and Jameka painted liquid latex on Eric making him a bra.....then when they went to peel it off.....a nipple ring got pulled too hard and blood ensued.

AP task was to mimic another houseguest.....Dick was the victim....it was kind of corny.....
stratusloop
10:22:57 AM
9/04/07

That would be a bad move - I think that might be enough that they'd loose even more votes in the end. They'd only win if they both made it to the final 2. They should stick to their word in this case. I don't know. Maybe not considering they'd only have to go up against Zack or Jam. I can't believe either one of them would get more than one vote.
Sarge
10:28:21 AM
9/04/07

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