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“19 if someone makes self righteous points, does that make them sefl righteous?

20 you question why i'm giving "such credence" to trail talk. Did it occur to you that maybe you're over-analyzing the wrong questions i'm asking?

21 you said it's "an interesting possibilty" that i might be attracted to you. does this mean that if i were attracted to you, that you would find the possibilities interesting?

22 do you believe that i incorrectly assume you're very close minded?

23 what do you believe are the chances that you are incorrectly interpreting my intentions and opinions of you?

14/16 clarifications:

do you believe the text within the book is the/an absolute truth.”

“19 if someone makes self righteous points, does that make them sefl righteous?

* For at least a brief period of time, yes.

20 you question why i'm giving "such credence" to trail talk. Did it occur to you that maybe you're over-analyzing the wrong questions i'm asking?

* No.

21 you said it's "an interesting possibilty" that i might be attracted to you. does this mean that if i were attracted to you, that you would find the possibilities interesting?

* No. Do you understand English grammar?

22 do you believe that i incorrectly assume you're very close minded?

* I believe one of two possibilities must be true. (1) You incorrectly assume I'm very closed minded, (2) You ask stupid questions.

23 what do you believe are the chances that you are incorrectly interpreting my intentions and opinions of you?

* There are too many variables to know that answer.

14/16 clarifications:

do you believe the text within the book is the/an absolute truth.

* No at all. I do on the other hand believe the original texts from which the KJV was eventually translated are the absolute truth. (PS - I very rarely read the KJ bible)”

“24 i did not bring a lunch today. i must walk across the street to burger king. should i get the spicey chicken tendercrisp sandwich (with cheese), or chicken tenders with zesty sauce?”

“24 i did not bring a lunch today. i must walk across the street to burger king. should i get the spicey chicken tendercrisp sandwich (with cheese), or chicken tenders with zesty sauce?

* Absolutely.”

“25 do you still believe i am trying to make the self righteous point that you are wrong b/c everyone disagrees with you?

26 do you believe that all these questions are merely a circuitus way to eventually proving this point?

27 you answered "* I believe one of two possibilities must be true. (1) You incorrectly assume I'm very closed minded, (2) You ask stupid questions."

if you had to bet your money, which possibilty would you bet is the truth?

28 since i asked the original question (20) has it occured to you now that you may be over analyzing the wrong questions?

29 which version, if any of the bible do you read often?

30 do you believe in hell?

31 how certain are you in this belief?

32 i do understand english grammar. do questions about your sexuality make you uncomfortable?

33 you've mentioned before that your IQ is 134. if you had to bet money, would you bet that your IQ is higher than mine?

34 who, if anyone, on trail talk would you guess has a higher IQ than you?”

“25 do you still believe i am trying to make the self righteous point that you are wrong b/c everyone disagrees with you?

* No, I think you've given up.

26 do you believe that all these questions are merely a circuitus way to eventually proving this point?

* Of course not. You're more likely just bored and are amusing yourself.

27 you answered "* I believe one of two possibilities must be true. (1) You incorrectly assume I'm very closed minded, (2) You ask stupid questions."

if you had to bet your money, which possibilty would you bet is the truth?

* How much money are we talking about?

28 since i asked the original question (20) has it occured to you now that you may be over analyzing the wrong questions?

* No.

29 which version, if any of the bible do you read often?

* I cannot answer this. The question incorrectly implies I read just one (or no) version often.

30 do you believe in hell?

* Yes.

31 how certain are you in this belief?

* 99%

32 i do understand english grammar. do questions about your sexuality make you uncomfortable?

* Depends on the context.

33 you've mentioned before that your IQ is 134. if you had to bet money, would you bet that your IQ is higher than mine?

* How much money are we talking about?

34 who, if anyone, on trail talk would you guess has a higher IQ than you?

* I wouldn't guess that. I have no way of knowing. There are many on here who I believe have a lot more knowledge than I do on a great number of subjects. IQ score is not something one could determine from online discussion in this setting. I believe it's quite a useless number in the real world.
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“"Sarge, just an observation here; 9 out of 10 times you post you sound angry and overly righteous. "

Sarge, read again what I said. To clarify: YOU SOUND ANGRY AND OVERLY RIGHTEOUS. Maybe deep down inside you're not but that's the way you come off. Maybe you do need more smiley faces or something. Maybe if that's not the way you want to present yourself you should change. If you don't care then don't.

Regarding Nigal. He knows how he comes off and does it intentionally. He's been told dozens of times, why should I tell him again? You just weren't around for it. ;)”

“Sass - I would recommend you talk to StoveStomper if you believe I don't know how I come off on here. Before you made your observation to me (and before sacco started this ridiculous rhetoric) I expressed to him via email that I know how I come off and do it intentionally as well. It may not appear like it on here (but if you would have addressed me privately you would have been aware the reasoning) but I'm way ahead of sacco and am aware of how it looks. I have my reasons for doing what I do. Thanks for the tip.

LOL

PS - All caps signifies yelling. You shouldn't yell at others, especially when you're telling them not to sound angry. It makes you look overly righteous.

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; )
last edited: 6/17/05 1:35:59 PM”

“35 are you growing board with these questions and are therefore being purposefully unaccommodating?

36 do you believe the specs. for who goes to hell are clear?

37 where are these guidelines?

38 have you answered all of these questions honestly?

39 what do you believe i ate for lunch.

40 do you believe i'm just amusing myself with these questions for no other reason than to pass time (with the dimming hope of catching you in a lie or prove you wrong)?


27,33 clarification:

a- $1
b- $100
c- your life savings

34 clarification:
a gun is held to your head. you must answer. i'm not asking you to insult anyone, just guess a TTer you believe has a higher IQ than you. it's a simple question. maybe it's not an easy question, but it is simple.

30 clarification:
what religious text or texts, if any do you read occasionally, or often?”

“41 how you are way ahead of sacco?

42 if you know that you come off as angry and overly self righteous, what are these personal reasons you have for purposefully appearing this way?”

“Sarge, I'm not going to email Stovie about your reasons, I don't think he should have to make excuses/ explain for you. Thanks for the offer though.

So sorry for yelling at you. Just wanted to make sure you heard.”

“35 are you growing board with these questions and are therefore being purposefully unaccommodating?

* No.

36 do you believe the specs. for who goes to hell are clear?

* Yes.

37 where are these guidelines?

* They are in Christian texts.

38 have you answered all of these questions honestly?

* Yes.

39 what do you believe i ate for lunch.

* which day?

40 do you believe i'm just amusing myself with these questions for no other reason than to pass time (with the dimming hope of catching you in a lie or prove you wrong)?

* No.

27,33 clarification:

a- $1
b- $100
c- your life savings

* I choose (a)

34 clarification:
a gun is held to your head. you must answer. i'm not asking you to insult anyone, just guess a TTer you believe has a higher IQ than you. it's a simple question. maybe it's not an easy question, but it is simple.

* The gunman has been disarmed. I now have the gun pointed toward his head. Bang! I pulled the trigger. He's dead.

30 clarification:
what religious text or texts, if any do you read occasionally, or often?

* There are many I read occasionally, and many I read often. I often read many versions of the Protestant Bible, and occasionally read the Catholic, Mormon, and different versions of Muslim bibles. Once in a while I'll read religious texts that are not considered "bibles" as well. There are too many to list here.
last edited: 6/17/05 1:57:07 PM”

“Sarge, I'm not going to email Stovie about your reasons, I don't think he should have to make excuses/ explain for you. Thanks for the offer though.

Sass - I did not ask you to email Stovie, nor did I suggest he should make excuses for me. I simply suggested he was told prior to your yelling at me that I was doing it intentionally, and if you don't believe me, you can ask him.

So sorry for yelling at you. Just wanted to make sure you heard.

I appreciate your most rightous advice.”

“No, you "recommended I talk to him". I'm not interested in quibbling with you Sarge. Save it for someone else.
You can take it as yelling if you want to, I specifically said it was just an observation.”

“You sound angry Sass. That didn't take much.”

“Not at all Sarge, not at all =) I'm sorry if that's the impression you got.”

“And I'm sorry if I gave you the impression I was angry too Sass. Nevertheless, I do appreciate your rightous advice.

Thanks!

LOL <- Pretty good, huh?”

“So you're just trying to be irritating then Sarge? - well done, you succeed.”

“The dickness is overwhelming.”

“y2 - Thanks.

Phaedrus - You're overwhelmed with dickness? LOL! You said it buddy! LOL!”

“43 you are becoming more and more difficult in answering questions that you do not want to.
meanwhile, you have purposefully qiven answers to steer these questions 14,16,17, (14,16 again), and 29/30 all in the hopes of being able to give this final answer:

* There are many I read occasionally, and many I read often. I often read many versions of the Protestant Bible, and occasionally read the Catholic, Mormon, and different versions of Muslim bibles. Once in a while I'll read religious texts that are not considered "bibles" as well. There are too many to list here


you are obviously very proud of the fact that you consider yourself very well read in the theology department. you very much wanted others to know how well read you are. why didn't you give this answer originally?

44 were you afraid to look to eager to let others know how smart you are?”

“sarge, you missed 41 and 42.


thanks.”

“Take it however you want to Sarge. I'm not a quibbler.”

“Ok Sass. Chill. Don't get so wound up.

sacco - I'll get to your questions in a few hours. Thanks, and take care.”

“LOL

Don't drag me into the middle of this mud rassleing. ;-)

Sarge is his own man.

Long live Freedom of Speech, even for those not Lefties.”

“i eagerly await your answers.”

“lmao, You're something else Sarge.”

“http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050617/en_nm/television_pbs_dc_1;_ylt=AhQlEX1O4I8wKR9ehn0uV21ZJ_wA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

US House panel cuts funding for public television By Richard Cowan
Fri Jun 17, 8:34 AM ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The House Appropriations Committee approved a bill on Thursday that would cut funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting by $100 million, or 25 percent, starting in October.

The funding cut was included in a massive, $142.5 billion spending bill for health, education and labor programs that still must be passed by the full House and Senate.

Rep. Ralph Regula (news, bio, voting record), an Ohio Republican who crafted the legislation, said 49 federal programs were being eliminated and other funding reduced because of tight spending limits.

Regula's original bill would have eliminated funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting in 2008, but a Democratic amendment earmarked $400 million so that public broadcasting could use the money in the future.

The Corporation for Public Broadcasting provides federal funds to the Public Broadcasting Service, or PBS, a nonprofit organization operated by 348 public television stations in the United States.

Lee Sloan, a spokeswoman for PBS, said smaller public television stations that rely heavily on federal funds would be hardest hit by the cuts, if they become law. She noted that in past funding fights, the Senate has restored funds.

Rep. Edward Markey (news, bio, voting record), a Massachusetts Democrat, said he would try to add funding for public broadcasting on the House floor.

PBS, which made its mark with children's television programs like "Sesame Street" and popular documentaries, has been targeted by congressional Republicans in the past for steep funding reductions. In 1995, House Speaker Newt Gingrich tried to eliminate funding for public television, hoping to turn it into a privately funded operation.

This year, PBS's news shows came under attack for allegedly having a liberal bias -- a charge the group's president denied. Conservatives also complained about a recent children's show in which some of the characters visited a farm in Vermont that was run by a family headed by two women.

Rep. David Obey (news, bio, voting record), a Wisconsin Democrat, said the 25 percent reduction in funding for the coming year would be "disastrous" for public broadcasting, which he said "is the most valuable resource we have for getting quality programing for children."”

“43 you are becoming more and more difficult in answering questions that you do not want to.
meanwhile, you have purposefully qiven answers to steer these questions 14,16,17, (14,16 again), and 29/30 all in the hopes of being able to give this final answer:

* There are many I read occasionally, and many I read often. I often read many versions of the Protestant Bible, and occasionally read the Catholic, Mormon, and different versions of Muslim bibles. Once in a while I'll read religious texts that are not considered "bibles" as well. There are too many to list here

you are obviously very proud of the fact that you consider yourself very well read in the theology department. you very much wanted others to know how well read you are. why didn't you give this answer originally?

* Actually sacco, and I have not and will not lie - the thought never crossed my mind to set up that response. That "set-up" is another thing you've dreamed up in your own head.

44 were you afraid to look to eager to let others know how smart you are?

* (see above)

41 how you are way ahead of sacco?

* It's a gift.

42 if you know that you come off as angry and overly self righteous, what are these personal reasons you have for purposefully appearing this way?

* Just like you said, it's personal.”

“Ewker - What in the heck are you talking about?

Stay on topic!

Oh wait. LOL <- (Just in case)
last edited: 6/17/05 4:34:35 PM”

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“"Regarding Nigal. He knows how he comes off and does it intentionally. He's been told dozens of times, why should I tell him again? You just weren't around for it. ;)”

LOL! you were always one of those people who could tell me like it is without being petty about it. You always have the kindest way of pointing things out but the message still gets through, "Yo dude, wtf is your problem?". LOL! It's friends like you and birch that lead me to look hard at myself and see what's important and why I have been able to leave the chaff and deal with the wheat.”

“What kind of hard-ass wants to leave the chaff?”

“Oh Nigal, you know better than to take much I say seriously. ;) (besides, I've never told you anything, it's all a secret!)”

“But Sarge, you should take it seriously. =)”

“You just can't stop can you Sass? Geez. Why are you so uptight about this. You really should just calm down Sass. You just can't let something drop. You're coming across as pushy and as an overly rightous person.

Preachy too... Way too preachy.

You're not everybody's mom.”

“This is my favorite NPR show next to Prairie Home Companion of course. Today we talk about exit stradegy from Iraq. Public support for the war is at all time lows and congress is getting the jitters with the 2006 elections looming. We don't call em freedom fries much anymore.

http://www.theconnection.org/”

“http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/iraq_usa_dc;_ylt=AowtyhBX11z6f9xvwm_jckkXr7sF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

The house of cards is falling down Mr. Bush. We love our troops, we love our country, we will fight for our freedom but we hate your lies.”

“This is what freedom is all about. I have often wondered about the right wing tactics. Does Bush really need to know that I was late returning books 3 times in 2004? Or that I checked out more than 5 wilderness survival books this year? I'm sure this is right up the religious wackos book burning alley. They want to destroy gun ownership records but peep into library records. In the end the Neocons are going to go full circle on gun control. The person that finally takes your gun from your cold dead hand will be a neocon in the name of security. Protect the right to keep and bear arms for lawful citizens. Protect the right to the written word and freedom of speech.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/15/AR2005061501953.html”

“"The person that finally takes your gun from your cold dead hand will be a neocon in the name of security."

I've been sayin' that for ten dang years!”

“Hasn't happened, either. Give it another 10.”

“owning guns is fine.

it's those dam literates we have to keep our eyes on!”

“I sold all of mine over the last ten years.”

“sold what?

your guns or your books?”

““"The person that finally takes your gun from your cold dead hand will be a neocon in the name of security."

I've been sayin' that for ten dang years!”

MarkO, a year ago I would have flamed ya and called ya a kook but in all honesty, I’d say you are right. The new Patriot Act stinks like rotten tuna. I hate conspiracy theories and I don’t buy into the christian’s NOW/end of days bullcrap, but I do see the shift in the landscape and I do see our freedoms being threatened and that is where my conservative side and the republican party part ways. Freedom before party.”

“nigal, you're just saying that to make me feel better.”

“Don’t get your hopes up there sacco. I ain’t drifting left. I’m being drawn up towards a more libertarian view.”

“Dang Nigal - and you went off on me for saying you were a lefty, now you're admitting it. typical”

“music to my ears buddy.

i'll send you a subscription form to the weekly manifesto immediately”

“sarge, I was the one Nigal went off on when I commented he might be called a liberal for saying that.”