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RE: Gojo's BIG News!
bacpac, I just think everyone should wait to see if he even wants to share the background. There seems absolutely nothing to gain in thinly veiled allegations. Gojo's response to you seemed pretty non-commital.

If he had truly gushed a "newgirl" (can that be the TT term for overly detailed confessions?) and said he was somehow deficient, then he's fair game. But he was just announcing his joy, with no real backstory. Again, as a dad who doesn't get to see my daughter as much as I'd like, I'll grant him some space here to soak it in.
pekka
1:17:49 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Pekka, Obviously Gojo has chosen to share his background. Well maybe not all of it. I would agree that Gojo has been non-commital.

Do you really believe that a commited Father of a child born of marriage would not be able to contact his daughter for seventeen years? Is that possible in the United States? I know we see it in the movies and it is not beyond the realm of possibility, but I think the answer is more obvious.
bacpac
1:30:46 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Having spent 15 years of my life as a working journalist in small towns, and also having an ex-wife who gets schizo about controlling our daughter's life, I have seen many things I would rather believe could not happen. But they do, and for gojo, there is no undoing them. I can only hope that the future holds a strong and loving relationship between father and daughter. They both need it.
pekka
1:41:24 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Pekka don't preach the pain of having an ex-wife. Good grief the Devil himself is less of an advisary than a scorned woman. Did your ex-wife prevent you from having a relationship with your child?

Keep making excuses. They only weaken your argument.
bacpac
3:08:09 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
As one trained in the fine art of sifting through the onion-skin layers of rubble to find that morsel of truth. That small nugget of gold in a vast river of conjecture,question...made murky by the swirling eddies of emotion,experience,and ego. To find the jewel of truth I will wage my own scorched earth policy to burn the chaff and provide fertile ground where the seed of truth and justice may prosper and her offspring will cover the earth 1000 fold.

Gojo gets 4 points for jumping into his padderfamilia role with such vigor and enthusiasm.

Bacpac gets 1 point for asking the questions no one else would.

Pekka gets 1 point for trying to get Bacpac to bacdown.
official scorekeeper
7:27:31 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
I think that this has been a very intelligent discussion from all sides. Gojo proves that he is man enough to move forward and totally embrace a new relationship with his daughter, when given the chance, instead of wimping out. And we wish him lots of future happiness. Those of us who don't know him in person don't need to know the painful history or who was to blame for what. Could we agree to chew on subjects of discussion rather than on individual TT'ers?
LyndyS
8:48:08 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Glad to hear you're happy about the situation, Mr.gojo!

Is she single?
Buddur
9:26:41 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
The scorekepper strikes again!
Buddha Bear
9:30:56 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Jailbait Buddur!
Joy
11:44:06 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Gojo, I don't know you, but I'm just reading your post and smiling and feeling happy for you.

That your daughter is so like you....weird huh?
Biz
11:52:29 AM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Joe thats a great story bro and I wish you and your daughter many happy years.
Spam
1:00:45 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
I'm not afraid nor ashamed of the truth, and neither is Jamie's mom. Suffice it to say that there was a great misunderstanding on both sides. But that was then... and this is now.

Truth, indeed, IS stranger than fiction.

I learned the truth last Thursday - the day I first talked to my ex. That truth was galvanized the moment I laid eyes on Jamie. My life has been totally altered!

Thanks for the kind words, y'all. I wish each and every one of you a life filled with the happiness that I feel today - even you, bacpac.

I am the king of the world!
gojo
1:12:24 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
People's flaws are what make them interesting
Mother Theresa
1:14:19 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Very well put, gojo. I'm sorry I got sucked into all the negativism and only added to the ugliness. You're a great man and now you're a Daddy! *Big Hugs*
Sunshine
1:16:24 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Well said Gojo.

(BTW official score keeper, loses one point for using a big Latin term s/he doesn't understand or know how to spell: pater-familias).
pedxing
1:46:45 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Good on you both Gojo,...I`m glad you found each other,....there`s nothing like a daughter`s love, or the understanding of a good father.

Take care of each other and love will grow where nothing else ever would.
Big Foot
2:37:33 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
bacpac, even you must know there's a difference between an example and an excuse. Or between showing empathy for a person and excusing any particular behavior (if you even know for certain there was a particular behavior).

If you want to discuss the roles, duties, and obligations of fathers as a class, why don't you lay out your idea of what the absolute -- as you might say -- "truth" of the matter may be. Then we can have our choice of discussing the merits of your idea or simply cracking wise about the issues TTers may start assuming you had with your own father.
pekka
2:58:59 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Attacking an issue, as opposed to a person are two different things. Hopefully we can distingish between the two to keep some peace around here. My 2 cents
Buddha Bear
3:02:45 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
And a good 2 cents they are, Buddha Bear.

But don't be surprised if you get flamed with an implication that your 2 cents came at the expense of exploited copper miners in Peru, LOL.
pekka
3:08:46 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Gee, I shoulda thoughta that, lol!
LyndyS
3:09:37 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Sunny I admire the standards you are willing to set for yourself.
pedxing
7:04:40 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
I do agree with BacPac about the importance of the responsibility a father has for his children. Its reasonable to read Gojo's story and wonder if he was helping to support his daughter and to wonder why he was out of touch for 16 years. There are valid moral concerns here and in this place you gotta expect them to be raised.

But when morality is used as a stick to beat someone with, it just puts me off.

What moves me in this story is not just Gojo's joy but also - being judgemental for a moment - his active goodness. Some men in his situation have said "da fuggin bij is prolly ta stick me college bills" or "da fargin sugga daddy she dumped me for musta ditched her." Gojo opened his heart and his home without hesitation. To me thats moral and its beautiful.

Pekka and Lyndy, and also BB and even Official Score Keeper (self appointed though you may be)I think your nicely on target here.
pedxing
7:34:31 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Hey Pekka, that Peruvian made 2 cents bought me a pith helment made by Kathie Lee's kids from Singapore!
Buddha Bear
8:01:59 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Hey gojo, that's great news! So how long until she's on this message board arguing with bacpac?
deathmarch99
8:08:11 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
BB, don't forget, Cody has to eat, too, LOL.

And, now that I think of it, it probably was exploited pink-slipped Yooper copper miners from the White Pine Mine near the Porkies, eh Sunshine?
pekka
9:22:51 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Congrats to a new chapter in your life Gojo! And for Jamie too.
Freedom
11:19:34 PM
8/11/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
"We all should walk with Jesus" - Bacpac

I don't think Jesus would agree with you Bacpac in what you posted above..

Gojo and Sarabelle -

How lovely for all y'all! My woman's intuition tells me you are a good man..this seals it in my book..

God Bless you, buddy!

PS: Since this isn't the highly anticipated marriage thread with TFR, does this mean you are still "available??" ROFLMBO
TXWoodswoman
3:51:12 PM
8/12/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Hey Tex, I had dibs on him first!!
*grrrrr*

;o) Just kidding.
Sunshine
3:54:10 PM
8/12/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Which comment would that be, Tx?
bacpac
4:18:07 PM
8/12/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Hmm...lessee....the one about killing a dog, your assumption that gojo is a deadbeat dad, the comment about shirking responsibility, the one about it being our business.

uhhh Yes, Jesus might not approve of your self righteous way of judging people.

My daughter and I have a relationship now after 14 years of my ex trying to keep us apart.

I have always paid child support, but the cash can't replace the relationship I was denied due to his spitefulness.

I remind my daughter that we can't change the past, or predict the future, but we can make the most of the present.

Again, Gojo, I'm so glad for you..I'm sure Sarabelle would agree that these are..


goooooood times!!
TXWoodswoman
4:49:36 PM
8/12/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Ok, ya got me on the dog comment.
bacpac
7:41:15 PM
8/12/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
maybe I'm ignorant to all this, but TX is the first woman I have EVER heard of that paid child support! Kudos to you for not being a "deadbeat mom".
switchback
10:51:39 PM
8/12/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
What's a Kudo?
walkindude
10:55:49 PM
8/12/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Dude - A kudo is either a candy bar manufactured by M&M/MARS or a way of offering congrats to someone for a job well done..

Why did I pay support? Because after working my butt off nights going to College, I got promoted, made lots more money than my ex and thus, paid child support.
TXWoodswoman
12:02:43 AM
8/13/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Gojo, I say develop the relationship and bury the past. Straighten it out with your daughter first then let it go. I just went to see my kids this weekend,(pretty much every weekend and some weeknights) and it can be a bittersweet time, but I do enjoy seeing them.

I was talking to Slasher this weekend and was beating myself up a bit for how the kids don't have Mom & Dad living together. I really feel bad about that. You know the FIRST duty of a father is to choose their children's mother. I didn't do so well there. But I can't undo that now. 20 years ago was the time to do the right thing and I obviously wasn't thinking with my head. Well, anyways, Slasher comforted me and suggested that I stop beating myself up over it and do the best I can now.

I just thought that I'd share that with you. Man, go see your daughter as often as you can.
Uphill Klimber
7:16:57 AM
8/13/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
congratulations, man. sarabelle is going to be SOOO jealous of how you spoil this girl!

i hope you don't skip my post, in this cesspool of pissing and moaning.

now, you'll have to bring her over for a cookout, soon!
radagast
8:22:55 AM
8/13/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
We have TONS of stuff to do soon.

Thanks for the offer - we'll take you up on it ASAP.
gojo
12:21:37 PM
8/13/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
I am not jellis cuz Jamie is a happy nice girly that is my new big sisster. She says "I luv you Sarabelle" and gives my good rubs and skratches. We rode in the truk to the mountins and made a fire in the grill and made ham buggers and hot dawgs and played in the watter and seen tree rats.

Kno what?
She got a dog to!
Her name is Lexy. She is a baybe puppy that is a wire manner. She got a leetle tale. She likes to ressel and play. I gess Lexy is my leetle sisster. We will have the goooood times!
(o:3
sarabelle
10:13:20 AM
8/14/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
LOL... sarabelle!!!
TownDawg
10:18:46 AM
8/14/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
:)
Buddur
10:21:19 AM
8/14/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Gojo, Im so happy for both of you. bring her along on one of our next trips so we can meet her. This couldnt happen to a better guy and if shes like you, then it couldnt happen to a better kid! Me and Bill wish you both happiness.
MOM
4:36:16 PM
8/14/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Thank you, MOM.
Like me?
Shoot - I'm not half the woman that she is!

Well, you know what I mean.


It's funny...
I've been a'hankering something fierce to find a true love. Just goes to show - you should be careful of what you wish for...

The ex has some pix that we're (she's) trying to get to my Photopoint page - I'll post when they become available.

I'm still aloft...
gojo
5:14:49 PM
8/14/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
BTW -
I bought 16 birthday cards (one for each b'day that I missed) last night. It'll take awhile for me to think of just the right words for each card, so who knows when I'll get the packet in the mail.
gojo
5:19:00 PM
8/14/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Aaaah, gojo! You are so thoughtful. You're always doing those little special somethings that mean so much. :o)
Sunshine
5:22:33 PM
8/14/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
This is so cool. I'm glad for the two of you.I never had a daughter of my own,but was fortunate to marry a wonderful woman with a daughter. Girls are way cool.
sandy
6:37:30 PM
8/14/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
The day we "met"...

Here we are!
gojo
5:26:37 PM
8/15/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Cool!
baume 66
5:28:02 PM
8/15/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
That must have been incredibly difficult for her.
flyguy6x
5:32:20 PM
8/15/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
Only for a few seconds. We really hit it off...
gojo
5:34:04 PM
8/15/01

RE: Gojo's BIG News!
That's a great pic, gojo.
skiracer
5:46:55 PM
8/15/01

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