The College Football thread

“"Better your enemies talk evil of you than not at all." Whoever said that must have been a GENIUS! An EVIL GENIUS I say!

CONGATULATIONS VOLS! What a great win for Tennessee. The VOLS hadn't won in Gainesville since 1971. The GATORS should have been up for this game, the crowd was into the game, nobody picked the VOLS to win. They come down to a hostile environment, ALL FIRED UP, and outplayed the GATORS on both sides of the ball. They stopped the run and put pressure on the quarterback. Then they run the ball like Colorado did against Nebraska. How can anyone run on the GATORS like that again, and again, and again? Travis Stevens was an animal! 226 yards against a very stingy Florida defense. Them Vols came to play!

Quotes from Steve Spurrier: "They just kicked our tails. Tennessee deserved to win the game. They ran it down our throats pretty good." "It hurts. We knew what was on the line. I don't know what else you can say. They kicked our tails. I hope I can watch the tape and say they were lucky, but I know I can't say that at all. No excuses. I'm proud of a lot of our guys. A lot of our guys played their hearts out, but as a team we didn't play well enough to beat a real good team." Yeah, sounds like a punk to me.

I was watching the game at a little tiki bar down at Crystal River. I couldn't hear the announcers because the band was playing too loudly in the background. There I was, sitting right over the water, outside in my shorts and T-shirt, watching my GATORS get demolished by a much better Tennessee squad. Watching my GATORS get exposed as a talented team without the heart to win a big game. Oh well, at least it was a nice night to watch the game. I'll bet it was nice and toasty warm at your place too, chili. CONGRATULATIONS VOLS!

Two good things I see from that game: 1. Florida now has a chance to win their bowl game. 2. The BCS is in shambles, WOOOHOOO! Who goes to the "championship" game? Colorado has a claim, Oregon has a claim, Illinois has a claim, Tennessee (may) have a claim, and Nebraska has a claim. I hope there's lots of grumbling out there when the match-ups are chosen. Playoff...playoff...playoff!”

“Woo Hooo! I'll still be hooken' them horns no matter which bowl game UTex goes to. But I'm plannin' on Volunteerin' fer the Rose bowl too.”

“Check out the AP poll, look at number 25. Yeah baby - my rockets are back, bring on Miami, errrrrr SW South Dakota State Tech A&M Community College (or whoever we play in motor city bowl)

BTW - I don't particularly like Spurrier, or the Gators, but I couldn't help but feel bad for ole walkin'dude, sitting there by the fire looking pretty glum in his gator jersey on Saturday night. He took it pretty well though. For his sake, I hope they win thier bowl game.”

“All I gotta say is the Vols better get up for their next game better than Nebraska, Florida and Texas got up for their last games. One more chance to choke!

That Texas/CU game was glorious because Major Applewhite got a chance to show he should have been starting for the last 2 years and Texas lost anyway! That sleazebag Mack Brown needs to be given the boot. All he can do is cut shady deals in February, beat no-name teams Sept-November and piss away any chance at a championship. Out with him!

Arc - condolences”

“arc, it was indeed a great game. Probably one of the biggest wins in the history of Volunteer Football. Your analysis is right on point, Tennessee won the game in the area 3 yards behind the Florida line of scrimmage and in the area 10 to 15 yards beyond their own line of scrimmage. It was apparant that Florida did not have a lot of experience with a running back charging down full bore on the safety. I think it would be safe to say that Tennessee played their "A" game and for the first time this year played up to their potential. I agree with the playoff idea. Tennessee can claim a shot at Miami (if we don't de-rail against LSU) but arguably, both Oregon and Nebraska can make the same claim. Who deserves the chance??? Obviously I hope Tennessee gets it, but I could not in all honesty say that they are "robbed" if either Oregon or Nebraska wind up playing for the same. An eight team playoff would result in some serious football, however.”

“The Bob Davies era is over. Maybe the Kansas Jayhawks could offer him a deal....”

“Our paper has one possible scenario working out this way (assuming Tennessee wins the SEC).

Rose: Miami-Tennessee
Sugar: Nebraska-Illinois
Orange: Florida-Maryland
Fiesta: Oregon-Colorado

I think Florida would be very lucky to play in a major bowl this year. The paper also predicts that if Tennessee were to lose the SEC, Florida would likely play Ohio State in Tampa. Boy would I like to see that match-up.”

“How about a friendly wager on the Sun Bowl. The Boilermakers vs the Fightin' Cougars of Wsahington State. Perhaps a Dutch Oven meal or two as the wager.”

“arc, under the scenario you listed, the Fiesta should be a great game. I believe Florida would destroy Ohio State and would really like to see Florida play either Oregon or Colorado.”

“Under this system, the Fiesta may be the only good bowl, chili, unless Tennessee can raise their game up one more notch. Could be possible. Tennessee did a great job handling FSU for the title.

I really like LSU too but I've got to root for the Vols in the SEC game. A good, clean, classy team that finally got a break this year after outplaying Florida last year too.

If I were chosing the bowls, I might have to pick Colorado to play Miami. Colorado is on a roll.

Anywho, after much consideration, I would root for Tennessee in the title game if they go. It's a choice between the best football State bringing home the BCS trophy, or the best football league. It would be a no lose situation either way. GO VOLS!”

“arc, I am impressed. Team first, conference second. Go,,,,er,,,Gators!!! ???? I can't believe I could actually typed that. I think my hands offend me,,,LOL,,,but cutting them off is completely out of the question.”

“As a VOLS fan chili, maybe cutting off the hands would be a good idea. That way you won't be tempted to pick your nose in public.

GO VOLS!”

“LMAO arc!!!! Hey, what is the difference between a 300# sow and the Florida Homecoming Queen???













About 30 pounds!!!!”

“One of the columnists in the Seattle Times made his Heisman choice today....Joey Harrington of Oregon. If that isn't a 'homer' choice I don't know what is. Check the stats, my vote is for Grossman. Just think what he'll do as a junior and senior.”

“LOL. I'm glad, chili. I was chuckling for a while after I made that post. An evil chuckle, of course. Do you really believe that the girls in Florida are all ugly? Yeah, about as ugly as the girls in California.

Grossman is really something, kleetn. All we need now is an offensive line that can consistently run block and pass protect. They should be better next year too. Grossman's going to have some amazing stats before he's through.

The interesting thing is that our back-up (Brock Berlin) was the consensus #1 college recruit quarterback when he came here a year later. Spurrier redshirted Grossman but failed to do so with Berlin. He has since admitted that it wasn't the smartest decision he's ever made. There's still time to redshirt Berlin (a sophomore). It would be a good choice because he's intelligent and has a better arm than Grossman. We have one of the best H.S. quarterbacks coming in next year too.

Good luck with Texas in the Holiday Bowl on Dec. 28, kleetn.”

“Buddha - I think your Rockets get Cincinnati in the Motor City Bowl. What's the date on that? I'm thinkning about heading over to check out Chester Taylor. Let me know if you're going.

Anybody want to pick bowl games for TT bragging rights? I get in one every year where you pick 'em straight up and assign twenty (or however many games we go with)points to your best bet, nineteen to your next sure thing and so on. All for funsies, or course. Whaddya think?”

“I'm in Max. Last weeks picks were pretty ugly. I need some redemption.”

“GO ARMY”

“I can say, without a doubt that the Jayhawks new football coach is twice the man that any other college has for a coach.
Former K-State and Oklahoma assistant....I'll take it.”

“Dun, didn't he go to SMU?”

“Not just that, Dunadan. He studied under Bob Stoops who has an advanced degree from Florida. It just doesn't get any better than that.

I wonder how he was enticed to coach at Kansas. You guys have a bunch of all night burger joints?”

“Yeah, Arc, I heard about his connection to Fla. through Stoops. I don't think Mangino was at Fla though, or was he?
Toejam, that was Bennett that went to SMU. He was a K-State asst that we were looking at, but he is also a loyal Texan, (too bad for him), and wanted to get back home. I'd rather coach KU than SMU any day.
Do you remember the football player that got stuck in the drive-through window at Taco Bell? And who says our program doesn't get national attention! The KU Alumni are just asking Mangino to keep the players out of the Taco Bell windows and away from unattended purses.”

“Nope, Dunadan, he wasn't ever at Florida but being around Stoops, he can't help having some of that good Florida mojo rub off on him.

Did you see Florida BB on ESPN last night against Mich. St.? They played great except for the last four minutes.

Sorry, we still have some bowl games left before we can start a new thread.”

“yes, only a few more weeks, then the Official College Basketball Thread can begin.
No, I'm sorry that I missed that game, Arc. It is going to be a crazy season. I worry about Illinois, and yet the Arizona Mildcats handled them easily. Well, I would love to see someone post all of the bowl game matchups, and have a TT prediction contest. Please note, I will win this contest!”

“will there be betting?”

“Heck yes, there will be betting. Just don't let Matt know what we are doing on his website and no one will get hurt.”

“You guys may be hurting after I take all your money.”

“OK, now that we have determined that I will be the victorious football forecaster, somebody needs to post the matchups.”

“In the words of Forrest Gump,,,,,, "It happens"”

“THANK YOU LSU!!!!!!!”

“I agree,Thanks LSU. Hogs should be in the Cotton now.”

“Tennessee should vote to stay home for the holiday season.”

“I really like LSU right about now. Not that I don't like the Vols, because I do, but this really messes with the @#^%** BCS.
Also, I think it is OBVIOUS that Nebraska, (a Big 12 team), should play for the championship. If they get a shot, look out Miami!”

“That should be a GOOD game!”

“I DON'T THINK SO.

WOOHOO!

SEC motto: We eat our own.

Ya gotta love it. Nebraska will probably go even though they didn't even win the north division of their own league! What a crock. This BCS nonsense has got to end... PLAYOFF, PLAYOFF, PLAYOFF.

Nebraska/Miami, no sweat, I'll take that bet and Dunadan's money at the same time. Oh happy, happy, joy, joy.”

“Tennessee v. Michigan in the Citrus. This should be a good game (depending on which Tennessee team shows up!)”

“Tennessee beats Florida and ends up in the Citrus while Florida goes to the Orange. Yeah, that's fair.

Michigan? Never heard of 'em. Where they from?”

“arc, I think they are from somewhere up north.”

“Ahhh yes, chili, one of those lesser football areas.

Max, how you want to run this betting thing? I've been betting the spreads all year. They haven't got all the spreads in my paper yet. You want to bet spreads or just winners?

Here's the schedule:

New Orleans Bowl- N. Texas/Colorado St.(12.5)

GMAC Bowl- Marshall/East Carolina(1)

Tangerine Bowl- N.C. St./Pitt.

Las Vegas Bowl- Southern Cal.(3)/Utah

Seattle Bowl- Ga. Tech/Stanford(3)

Independence (sanctions) Bowl- Iowa St./Alabama

Galleryfurniture.com Bowl- Texas AM/TCU

Music City Bowl- Boston Coll./Jawja

Holiday (pizza) Bowl- Texas(13)/Washington

Motor City Bowl- Toledo(4)/Cincinnati

Alamo Bowl- Texas Tech(1.5)/Iowa

Insight.com Bowl- Kansas St.(6)/Syracuse

Sun Bowl- Wash. St./Purdue

Humanitarian Bowl- La. Tech/Clemson

Silicon Valley Bowl- Fresno St./Mich. St.

Liberty Bowl- BYU/Louisville

Peach (fuzz) Bowl- N. Carolina/Auburn

Outback (outhouse) Bowl- Ohio St./S. Carolina

Cotton (bacpac) Bowl- Arkansas/Oklahoma

Gator (great name) Bowl- Va. Tech/Fla. St.

Citrus (spelled with UT) Bowl- Tennessee/Michigan

Fiesta (ripped off) Bowl- Colorado/Oregon

Sugar (best conferences) Bowl- LSU/Illinois

Orange (best teams) Bowl- Florida/Maryland

Rose (totally unfair) Bowl- Miami/Nebraska”

“Don't make it so easy on me, Arcmeister. Nebraska is going to humiliate My Scammy.
I'm going to do a little studying up on some games. I especially don't know much about the SEC, where they play that pretend football.
Here is my suggestion for the winner. He or she will start a thread with the heading, "I am a football God", and everybody who enters the contest must agree to post on the thread at least once a day for a month.”

“No problem, Dun. And I expect you to get down on your knees when you make that post to my thread! You land of OZ provincial.

Here are the spreads for the teams in the bowls that weren't listed yesterday. I'll just list the favorites:

Pitt (1)
Alabama (7)
Texas AM (7)
Jawja (5)
Wash. St. (9)
Clemson (7)
Fresno St. (6)
Louisville (2)
N. Carolina (2)
S. Carolina (2)
Oklahoma (13)
Va. Tech (2)
Tennessee (3.5)
Colorado (3)
LSU (3)
Florida (16)
Miami (10)

You better hope we bet spreads, Dunadan. That's the only way you'll collect on the Cornholers game.

Quote from Spurrier: "College football is not the most fair thing without a playoff system. Nebraska is in the final game and they only beat two ranked teams the entire season. Somehow or another, they're in the final game. I don't know how all that math plays out."

Ain't it the truth. The teams that play in the weak leagues like Nebraska and FSU will always have an advantage in the Poll System.”

“and the choir gives up an Amen upon hearing arc preach the truth”

“I like those weak conferences like the Big 12, only 8 bowl teams.”

“A mere fluke, ChuckD. It's a bad year when the SEC only puts eight teams in bowls.

Teams ranked in final top 25
SEC- 5
Big 12- 4
PAC 10- 4
Big 10- 3

In fact, it was a banner year for the Big 12. More than 2 teams ranked. WOOHOO!”

“I think the BCS, not only being guilty of thievery and stupidity, should have animal bestiary added to the list. They sure screwed them ducks! They could learn a little something from the A II schools. They never have any problems figuring out who the A II champ is because they have a PLAYOFF SYSTEM!”

“I her dat! Buddah.

"It's not our fualt..."


In fact, "THE RECORD" is glaring. Especially on the education issue. You big Nut.


 “Knowledge is different from opinion.”

Socrates (470-399 B.C.)

Facts are pesky things for some folks, ped. Thanks for the unbiased research.

The college sports media is definitely biased towards the north. More concentration of dumb-folks in bigger, more polluted cities up there. They been breathin' that stinky air for too long. How else could those northerners actually believe they know how to play football? Frozen brain cells I guess.”

“that's right arclite,,,,,I mean go figure,,,,,Charles Woodson wins the Heisman over Peyton Manning,,,,how else can you explain that other than the bias of sports media???”

“i can't believe this thread is STILL alive!

alright, folks...

step away from the computer
turn off espn
put down the tv remote
grab your bag and TAKE A HIKE!”

“LOL!! what's that skully was saying about eyes glazing over? ;-)

personally, raddy, i think they just like they way the guys look in those tight pants, hehehe! and speaking of which, you forgot to thank me for that hot picture i sent you...”

“i couldn't open it!

the link asked for a password!

but i don't want to see a dude in tight pants!”