The College Football thread

“http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-ohiost-springgame&prov=ap&type=lgns


dayum, where's Buddha bear? and they paid $5 bucks a pop.”

“Arc if he was a black woman.

GO GAYTAS!”

“Go Gata: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgbBP9Em00A&NR=1”

“That is arc.”

“18 seconds apart! LOL! I'm not telling Arc who sent me the link either.”

“AH yes...Corrine Brown, another reason to cede Florida to Cuba.

LOL I have a friend who is die hard GEICO...sorry Gator fan...
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“Hey, you guys weren't supposed to find out about my operation until our next hike.




Oh yeah, good example guys. Leave it to Nanook of the north and Bama Bubba to come up with that puppy.

Corrine Brown is a Democrat who represents a very liberal constituency that usually surrounds academic institutions. She graduated from Florida A&M University, then she got something called an educational specialist degree from UF.

"Most individuals who earn an Ed.S. degree seek to increase their skills for advanced certification requirements or other professional objectives. Many people may pursue an Ed.S. degree in order to meet state or professional requirements for career advancement. Major areas available with this degree include school counseling, school psychology, and others."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educational_specialist


She can hardly be called a UF graduate. And those of us who are proud to be National Champion Gator Alumni, can hardly be responsible for those who wish to ride our coattails.


You freakin' goaders! You're just trying to get me to bow up with pride and squash yall because this should be a great year to be a FLORIDA GATOR.

Having to root for your pathetically mediocre teams has just made all you second-rate wanna-bees envious.

Well, I'm not going to go there. Because if my team should lose even one game this year, you boobs will descend like S!#T flies.


Nossir, I'm going to be a gentleman this year.”

“So getting a doctors level degree at UF doesn't count as being a UF grad? My client with a doctorate in architecture from UF will be crushed.”

“Nope, getting a degree from Bama doesn't count as much as a kindergarten degree.


Research and understanding come before an open mouth for anyone with an education, Bubba Bama.

It may have been helpful to have read what an educational specialist degree is before opening your mouth and inserting your clod-hopper boot.


"Alabama, you got
the weight on your shoulders
That's breaking your back.
Your Cadillac
has got a wheel in the ditch
And a wheel on the track"”

“Break it up, you denizens of the SEC. It's going to be a GREAT year to be a Jayhawk. National championships in both football and basketball this coming season.”

“Hey, what's Dunadan doing on the football thread? Shouldn't he be on the basketball thread with the other one sport school fans?”

“I don't know arc, I just assumed she got into UF on some kind of non-English-speaking grant or something.”

“Corch Irving Meyers is a gutsy gata!

Signed,

Longlosthiker


His comment to me pretty much summed up the whole speech.”

“It was an inspiring speech wasn't it? I got all misty-eyed didn't you, Dayhiker?




Nigal, for your information, it's called the Al Sharpton Ebonics Grant.

I'm sure Michigan has the Fargo Midwest Speech Grant considering how they're big on quotas. Uh Yuh, doanchya know.
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“Give Kiffen on full recruiting year and the Vols will be back.”

“I have to thank Kiffen for the newest addition to our team, B. J. Coleman.”

“"Wait until next year."

I remember saying that ... a lot.

Learn to enjoy every day, chili. Learn to celebrate every moment. Learn to celebrate all the preseason predictions, like this one:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/121534-2009-college-football-preseason-rankings-2nd-edition

...and this one:

http://www.nationalchamps.net/2009/earlybird/index.htm

...and this one:

http://cfn.scout.com/2/834781.html

...and this one:

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=898567

...and this one:

http://collegefootball.about.com/od/schools/tp/rankings-preseason.htm

...and this one:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/stewart_mandel/01/09/early-top10/

Then you'll be well practiced to celebrate if the GATORS lose.


Give Kiffen another year and he'll make an enemy of every coach in the SEC. The man is a media quote machine without the wit of a Spurrier.
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“Give Kiffen another year and he'll make an enemy of every coach in the SEC. The man is a media quote machine without the wit of a Spurrier.
last edited: 5/08/09 9:15:47 PM�
arclite

that was wit? and here all this time i thought he was just an ass.”

“For the second straight year, the Rutgers football program was ranked in the top five in the nation in Academic Progress Rate.
The latest multi-year APR figures were released Wednesday afternoon by the NCAA. Rutgers football was ranked third for the second year in a row. The Scarlet Knights are the only program in the country to win a bowl game in each of the last two seasons and place in the top five of the APR.

"Academic achievement and consistency are a priority of our program," Rutgers coach Greg Schiano said in a statement. "Our latest APR score is a compliment to our student-athletes, coaches and academic support staff. To rank in the top three nationally, and to do it at an elite public institution like Rutgers, makes it even more special."

Rutgers was also the highest-rated state university in the nation.

http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2009/05/rutgers_football_program_ranks.html”

“So elite that Rutgers finally joined the AAU in 1989.

Yeah, yeah, we're all highly impressed. And if your team ever gets good enough to teach hard work as a life skill strategy for winning, we'll all be really impressed.


"Money matters when it comes to academic success.

Fourteen of the 73 schools (19 percent) in the ACC, Big East, Big 12, Big Ten, Pacific-10 and SEC had teams that were slapped with penalties, while 93 of the 257 schools (36 percent) from other conferences were hit with sanctions.

For the first time this year three programs — Centenary men's basketball, Chattanooga football and Jacksonville State football — are facing postseason bans for prolonged academic problems.

Some big-name schools suffered penalties. In men's basketball, Purdue lost one scholarship, Ohio State lost two scholarships and Tennessee lost one scholarship. In football, Ole Miss and Minnesota lost three scholarships apiece."




And we all know that Purdue and Minnesota are two fine examples of weak academic institutions. Shame on them.




"Unfortunately, the APR and the accompanying penalties are not strong enough to influence the behavior of most athletic programs. The APR only tracks two things: 1) whether an athlete returns to school each semester and 2) whether an athlete completes 20 percent of the required courses for a specific degree each year. There is no minimum GPA, and there is no consideration of class rigor. In addition, the APR’s rigidity basically forces athletes to stay on the same degree track, which means that athletic programs often push them into the easiest majors as freshmen."




It's easy to criticize (because these measurements all have flaws )but at least the APR eliminates leaving early to earn a living in the pros, or transferring, as counting against schools.




UF Football Excels in Academic Progress Report

“We take a great amount of pride in our team’s academic success,” said head coach Urban Meyer. “It’s really a tribute to the commitment of our student-athletes, as well as our coaches and academic support staff.”

The report takes into account data over a four-year period, spanning from the 2004-05 academic year through 2007-08. The football team’s 963 mark places them well above the sport’s Division I average of 939

Under Meyer’s guidance, the football team has graduated 67 student-athletes in the last four years, including all 13 seniors from the 2008 National Championship team. In that same time period, 107 members of the team have been named to the SEC Academic Honor Roll, including a league-record 37 in 2008. In addition, more than 32 percent of football scholarship players earned a 3.0 GPA in the fall of 2008.
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“So what the hell are ya trying to say Violin? Rutgers players are smart? What, like they're smart enough not to go out doing monster bong hits before NFL combines and flunk their drug test they KNOW will be taken?”

“Exactly Nigal. Rutgers is such an elite institution that it can probably stop players from using hard drugs like marijuana. I know my education enabled me to avoid making any stupid mistakes. And my intelligence certainly stopped me from using drugs or alcohol.

A good education can probably even teach players how to expose themselves in public and plead not guilty. Or from urinating in the VIP areas of nite clubs. Or from assault charges like attacking hockey players from your own school. Thank God Florida doesn't recruit running backs who are stupid enough to attack members of the UF hockey team.


...we could go on like this ad infinitum. However, my favorite was the genius at Oregon State who was arrested for drinking with a gay sheep. TOP THAT!
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“Yo, Chili. There is a rumor on the NC State boards that we will be playing you guys in the BCA game in the Georgia Dome in 2010 (some say 2011). Have you heard that?”

“Auburn turned down a chance to open in 2010 against UCLA in that game....and they recruite Georgia heavily.

BTW, yesterday was Gene Chizik Day. Happy Chizik Day to my Auburn friends.

His record at Iowa State was 5-19.....just a little hint.”

“Had not heard that hyway. Of course things are so dismal, I haven't kept up like I used to.

Come to think of it, things are so dismal, I automatically become worried about losing to NC State in a televised game.”

“LOL, not sure if I was just kicked in the teeth or not :)”

“Let's face it...NC State is not know as a powerhouse.”

“"...is not know as a powerhouse?"

And you guys are complaining about Ms. Brown? Apparently a double standard exists towards our esteemed barrister.

YOU RACISTS!




“The 2008 Florida Gators had something to prove.

The Gators were disappointing in 2007. Coming off a national championship the previous season, Florida stumbled to a 9-4 finish, including an embarrassing 41-35 loss to Michigan in the Capitol One Bowl to end the season.”

Lindy’s Sports, National Champions Florida Gators 2008, Special Collector’s Edition


Well, of course, any loss to Michigan is embarrassing. It’s especially embarrassing for a top team such as Florida. Because, Michigan is an embarrassment to college football.

"There's a saying out there, "success breeds success." But in Michigan's case, it's starting to seem like the exact opposite. This school's football program is becoming a complete and utter laughingstock."
http://www.faniq.com/blog/Michigan-Hockey-Star-Assaulted-By-Michigan-Football-Player-Blog-12755
last edited: 5/25/09 10:51:00 AM”

“I wouldn't say complaining about Ms. Brown, so much as glad she's not from our state.

One that I wish wasn't from my state and would also get me labeled is Rep. Alvin Holmes. Do yourself a favor and check youtube on his name and see what he has to say about the Free the Hops bill that was just signed into law.

"What's wrong with the beer we got?"”

““Let's face it...NC State is not know as a powerhouse.”
chili36
11:53:24 AM
5/20/09

I hope that if we do play that's the attitude the Vol's bring with them. In 2003 we played Ohio State at their house and it took a goal line stand in the 3rd overtime to end the game with a Buckeye win. Moral victories suck, so hopefully if we play you guys it will just be a plain ole victory.”

“http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=10449685

It looks official, only its 2012, not 2010, when NC State and Tennessee meet in the Georgia Dome to kick off the season.”

“Good, by then we will be back to form, or we won't have a football team anymore.”

“I would rather play you guys while we still have Russel Wilson as QB, but our backup is supposed to be something special to, but all backups are special until they actually play.”

“NC State?

Didn't those clowns play in the lowly Papajohns.com Bowl this past season?

You expect to be taken seriously on this thread ever again?”

“yep, we had our problems when our phenom freshman QB went out and our keystone cop type back up (ex starter) came in. The light goes out of our whole team whenever that dude plays). Until then the team we were playing was getting a pretty good beating.”

“I heard some great Ohio State football jokes. Is this the thread for them?
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“No because this is a football thread.”

“LOL”

“Having just returned from Laconia NH Bikeweek with Radagast, it seems I’ve missed out on some football excitement.

And nobody has mentioned a word? Where are the football “traditionalists”? Or should I say tradition “apologists”? Some so-called college football fans here on TT should be ashamed (if they knew the meaning of the word).

At USC, Oklahoma, and Alabama the fun never seems to end. Thank God the hockey players are taking a break from beating up the football players at Michigan.




The NCAA penalties issued Thursday included the Alabama football team vacating any wins in the 2005, 2006 and 2007 seasons in which the offending players participated:

http://blog.al.com/birmingham-news-sports/2009/06/ncaas_sanctions_shock_former_a.html


In this article the writer paints with a broad brush to besmirch the entire SEC. But isn’t it always the dirty programs that refuse to clean up their act that spoil it for everyone? And isn't it always the stupid fans who refuse to acknowledge the abuses at their own schools, and in their own conferences, who hypocritically point the fingers at others?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/199054-who-should-be-held-responsible-for-alabamas-ncaa-sanctions


This article documents the long and inglorious history of Bama football. But it doesn’t go back far enough to the famous “Sugar Bear” Bryant interview where he admitted to paying players to come to Alabama:

Alabama's NCAA sanctions are learning opportunity
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/9700502/Alabama%27s-NCAA-sanctions-are-learning-opportunity-




Hopefully Alabama will be still have a football team in a couple of years.”

“The NCAA is quite well known for coming down like a ton of bricks on second tier teams.

They make to much money from the rich teams.”

“Athletes were letting their classmates borrow their textbooks before returning them and UA didn't catch them. That's pretty much what the issue was. We discovered it and self reported it. Not really a competitive advantage situation.


I was in teh BVI when all of this broke, so it didn't really register on my radar then and haven't really thought about it since reading about it Monday a week ago.
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“The only way it will have a major impact at Bama is if they violate some other rule and get a escalated penalty now because of repeated violations.”

“Athletes were letting their classmates borrow their textbooks before returning them

maybe it's just me, but this seems like a rather silly violation to get too upset about. The penalty doesn't seem to fit the 'crime'.”

“It was discovered before teh UT game in 07. We called teh NCAA, told them about it, recommended that the 5 players sit, they agreed, we moved on. I think what nailed us, is that it was across 16 sports. Football took the brunt of the damage even with only the 5 guys involved.

I don't know what part of having no margin for error UA doesn't get though.”

“i suppose when it covers 16 sports (pretty much the ENTIRE athletic dept??) it does seem to indicate that it's a 'institutionalized' practice. But still... it's not like they were having some other kid take the stars SAT test or anything like that.”

“From what I was told, someone in the book store got pissed at someone and turned it in. We technically caught ourselves, but only because of a disgruntled clerk.

I heard that 200 athletes were involved. If only 5 f.b. players got in trouble then that makes you wonder if it was the whole athletic department EXCEPT the football team.”

“chili,

I think this means that the UT/Bama game where we won 6-3 was vacated. This is the game where you, me, cocoa, longlost, opie, mrs opie, and arclite listed to it from the Smokies.”

“Cecil Hurt of the Tuscaloosa News does a good job at not being too much of a homer. He'll call UA out if needed. Here are two of his articles on the subject for anyone intested:

http://www.tidesports.com/article/20090612/NEWS/906119906/1067/NEWS?Title=CECIL-HURT-Disappointing-is-all-you-can-say-about-this-case

http://www.tidesports.com/article/20090614/NEWS/906139947/1067/NEWS?Title=CECIL-HURT-Where-was-the-competitive-advantage-in-2007-season-

This part summed it up: But what is most disappointing, perhaps, is the core of the �failure to monitor� violation. There was nothing evil at work, or at least nothing more evil than bureaucratic myopia and, perhaps, a little laziness on the part of UA athletic administrators who are, by the way, still UA athletic administrators. Every month, data came in from the Supply Store. Every month, it went from an administrative assistant (who was only looking for �correct code�) to an assistant athletic director to an associate athletic director, up the chain and out the door, rubber-stamped with no evidence of close scrutiny. Is that the ultimate crime? Not at all. But banality can be just as deadly as villainy. Is that the way to operate when you are (and everyone knows how I hate this phrase) �looking down the barrel of a gun.� Not by a long shot.

So a gap was created. Student-athletes found the hole in the fence and � not surprisingly � clambered through it. That�s not the 80 percent or so of the involved student-athletes who inadvertently accepted supplemental materials. They weren�t trying to scam the system. But the 22 athletes who knew what they were doing was wrong, and did it anyway, bear some responsibility, too. But the hole in the fence should not have been there, not for nearly three years.”

“�chili,

I think this means that the UT/Bama game where we won 6-3 was vacated. This is the game where you, me, cocoa, longlost, opie, mrs opie, and arclite listed to it from the Smokies.�
dayhiker
11:28:03 AM
6/22/09

That means we need to go back up there and re-live that experience, minus one or two participants, so I can be the one dancing around the fire, and you can go to bed early.”

“so does that mean the hike never happened, my friend never climbed up that tree for firewood, and chili never carried two packs out?”