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Ultralight food or Misery in a pouch?View Messages“no really, its Olive Oyle being eaten.” 11:45:42 AM 2/28/09 “Mountain House is my fave. I like the Chili Mac the best. No repackaging anymore since they stopped double bagging. Also can be bought at a discount in bulk and packaged by you in single servings.” 1:29:00 PM 2/28/09 “Olive oil and chocolate coated coffee beans.” 5:37:30 PM 2/28/09 “LOL! Dear God! That way I can have the jitters while my rectum explodes over a cat hole right?! LMFAO!” 7:27:06 PM 2/28/09 “Thats a lot of calories. Calories per oz for some things: 251 - Olive Oil 170 - Smucker's natural peanut butter with honey 170 - Planters lightly salted cocktail peanuts 160 - Pringles original 150 - Hershey's milk chocolate with almonds 142 - M&M;'s with peanuts 140 - Mountain House scrambled eggs with ham 135 - Snickers bar 131 - Maruchan ramen noodles 127 - Mountain House beef stroganoff 117 - Balance Bar Gold chocolate peanut butter 114 - Cheddar cheese 110 - Honey Nut Cheerios 103 - Quaker instant oatmeal maple brown sugar 102 - Tang drink mix 100 - Carnation instant breakfast milk chocolate 100 - Clif Bar carrot cake 100 - Non-fat powdered milk 90 - Sun-Maid raisins 85 - Whole milk mozzarella cheese 70 - Outpost peppered beef jerkey 35 - Soy beans 30 - Bumble Bee tuna 25 - Banana 12 - Apple Sauce Pringles are also highly flammable and act as good firestarter in whole form last edited: 2/28/09 7:50:38 PM” 7:57:35 PM 2/28/09 “Nutella: over 100 calories per tablespoon. Yummy stuff!” 8:17:09 PM 2/28/09 “thanks ChrisM. I was wondering why Pringles set my stomach on fire. Good list though!” 8:25:01 PM 2/28/09 “Meangreen: Check out sunflower seeds (the ones not in shell). They have quite a few calories in them, but they aren't very light.” 11:41:07 PM 2/28/09 “This may be hard for you to stomach because you're so used to horse cock but...Ultralight Joe's Moose Goo. Basic Recipe: * 2 parts honey * 2 parts corn flour (NOT corn meal! I plan to try sweet rice flour soon.) * 1 part peanut butter (preservative-laden) * Mix thoroughly, will take some time. * Pack into Coghlan's Squeeze Tube (REI, Campmor, etc), or in cold weather wrap in wax paper. Single Squeeze Tube Proportions (2-3 lunches w/ large tortillas): * 8 tbsp honey * 8 tbsp corn flour * 4 tbsp peanut butter Per tube: * 1320 calories * 172g carbs (70 simple, 102 complex) * 24g protein * 38g fat (That's a high proportion of fat, but what the heck...) BEWARE! Below 40F, Ultralight Joe's Moose Goo becomes impossible to squeeze out! I open the tube from the back and spoon it out when that happens. For snow camping I pack it in wax paper instead, eat it like a candy bar, or pre-pack it into tortillas.” 4:14:42 AM 3/01/09 “But cooking is FUN!!!” 8:09:13 AM 3/01/09 “Beef sticks vary a lot in calories/ounce, but some of them are pretty weight efficient especially if you leave the wrappers behind. I get tired of most beef sticks if I am depending on them for calories. I prefer a nice Italian dry salami - more and more supermarkets are carrying them, they have a lot more calories/ounce than other salamis and there are some great tasting ones. For long day hikes and stoveless backpacking trips I also carry nuts (Macadamias give you 200 calories/ounce) or nut mixes.” 1:55:19 PM 3/01/09 “ Praise the Lard! � (250 calories/oz) Butter..................... 200 Margarine.............. somewhat less than that (esp if it has water added) ” 4:07:13 PM 3/01/09 “BEER” 4:26:02 PM 3/01/09 “Heeeeeere ya go! BTW, Dairy Queen Large Chocolate Chip Cookie Dough Blizzard�........... 1320 Wouldn't that be tasty in the middle of an ice storm? � < G >” 4:37:03 PM 3/01/09 “Macadamia, schmacadamia...............y'all are nuts!” 4:40:07 PM 3/01/09 “Thanks guys. This helps.” 5:36:57 PM 3/01/09 “Nigal, I made up a batch of that stuff, but I could not eat it. It gagged me! And it's so thick that you gotta have lots of water on hand to get it down. But yeah, a ton of calories if that's what you want.” 5:49:13 PM 3/01/09 “You can adjust the consistency how ever you like. Too thick? Add more honey. I wouldn't want it to be the only food I eat for a whole weekend but I'd much rather eat it than Powerbars.” 4:44:08 AM 3/02/09 dried hash browns “Does anyone know where to get dried hash brown potatoes?” 8:29:26 AM 3/02/09 “google is your friend: http://beprepared.com/product.asp?pn=FS%20V152&bhcd2;=1236012935” 9:21:50 AM 3/02/09 “yummmmmmmm...hash browns. Rehydrate along with some dried onion and green peppers. Cook them up in some olive oil. Maybe add some pre-cooked bacon or ham. You might be able to just use the potatoes out of a box of hash browns, you know the ones by Betty Crocker or whoever..” 9:32:48 AM 3/02/09 “Combos and Fig Newtons...both pretty indestructible and both packed with calories! And as much as I hate agreeing with Nigal...Moose Goo is a good option. I would also buy some EnduroxR4 and drink one at lunch and one at night...it's actually a recovery drink but it's got a ton of carbs in it, plus it just plain tasted good :)” 9:49:05 AM 3/02/09 ““But cooking is FUN!!!” divinity 11:09:13 AM 3/01/09 I cook all my families meals at home. The last thing I want to do when camping is cook. Well maybe not the last thing, that would probably be contract explosive diarrhea while above the tree line.” 9:56:42 AM 3/02/09 “I'm with you Hyway. But I do get jealous seeing some of the food TTers eat while camping. I'm a big fan of campfire cooking in aluminum foil. No dishes. Pizza is my favorite lately w/ the boboli type crusts. I get mama someone's whole wheat. Holds up much better than I ever thought it would. A baby bell cheese sliced thin and sauce packet.” 10:46:55 AM 3/02/09 something new “Years ago it was all Mountain House, then I discovered Enertia, which I have used exclusively for the past 4-5 years. Just last week I bought a supply of dehydrated meals- dinners, breakfasts from Pack Lite Foods. ( Packlite.com) Look good, cost was okay, portions seem reasonable, ingredients seem interesting. all one pot vegiterian stuff. We'll see.” 4:55:19 PM 3/02/09 “Dayhiker made pancakes one morning & had real maple syrup...yummm.....it sure looked good...” 5:42:23 PM 3/02/09 “I cook all my families meals at home. The last thing I want to do when camping is cook. Well maybe not the last thing, that would probably be contract explosive diarrhea while above the tree line. Do you have a dehydrator? I do most of the cooking at home too and I have taken to just throwing left overs in the dehydrator. I ate like a king on the last trip with very little effort. I had angle hair pasta with veggies and ratatouille, macaroni with tomato and venison sauce and home baked bread.” 4:05:22 AM 3/03/09 “Dehydrators are the shizzit.” 5:27:31 AM 3/03/09 “i used packlike foods for a while. bought a box... a few of everything. it was all pretty good but some of the meals were a little bland. just bring some of your own favorite spices. my favorite is dehydrated pasta/sauce. simple as anything and ez in my dehydrator. i was shocked to find that dehydrated cooked pasta rehydrates about as good (if not as good) as just off the stove. that plus a little parm. cheese and red pepper flakes and you have a great meal at a fraction of the price. i rehydrate the sauce with 1/2 the water... makes it thicker and much stronger in flavor but i wind up eating a whole jar of sauce... lol!” 6:12:24 AM 3/03/09 “Cooked pasta rehydrates real good. I've even heard of people rehydrating uncooked pasta, it just takes longer. I did mac and cheese once, and it was good, but it needed a little fat. A good squirt of olive oil did the trick.” 7:36:26 AM 3/03/09 “i will dehydrate the sauce into a "jerky" and freeze it... then crumble it into a course powder (freezing makes this easy). then i cook the pasta and dehydrate it. in the field i boil water and dump it in the pouch with the pasta. after it rehydrates i don't pour off the water... i just add the powdered sauce plus a little more water as needed to get the consistency i want. ewker was telling me he just puts the sauce pasta and all into the dehydrator and that works well also. never tried this.” 8:53:18 AM 3/03/09 “I've even heard of people rehydrating uncooked pasta, i'm scratching my head on this one...how do you rehydrate uncooked pasta?...isn't that the same as cooking uncooked pasta?” 9:05:03 AM 3/03/09 “What he said. Why dry cooked pasta when its very cheap and already dried in a bag from a store? Isn't "rehydrating uncooked pasta" another way to say "cooking pasta"? Is it done some other way than to buy it dry and uncooked from a store, and cook it when you need it?” 9:30:51 AM 3/03/09 “well, i understand rehydrating cooked pasta, it takes less time(not that cooking pasta really takes that long anyway)...plus you can do it by just pouring hot water in the bag last edited: 3/03/09 9:26:05 AM” 9:35:52 AM 3/03/09 “The method I've heard of is to pour some dry uncooked pasta into a nalgene, and add water. Put it back into your pack and carry it around all day, and by (either dinnertime or lunchtime, can't remember which) the pasta will be nice and rehydrated and tender, just like you had cooked it.” 9:49:40 AM 3/03/09 “Those are all great ideas. I love pasta and way cheaper than buying MH. I will try your rehydrating pasta. Thanks guys!!!” 9:56:51 AM 3/03/09 “The pasta has to cook some. If you try to rehydrate it in cool water it will be a slimy mess.” 10:02:20 AM 3/03/09 “If you vacuum seal the dehydrated sauce how long will it last?” 10:03:32 AM 3/03/09 “Tango, I am with you. MH is too expensive. My favorite pasta for backpacking is the the dried tortellini you find with other pastas, like next to the spagetti noodles. You can "cook" these using the freezer bag method. Takes about 15-20 minutes in your cozy, or 10 minutes or so boiling in your pot. In the meantime, prepare some dehydrated marinara sauce in camp and pour over the tortellini, along with some olive oil and parmesan cheese. yummers!” 10:07:13 AM 3/03/09 “Just reporting what I've read nemster...if you don't like it, KMA.” 10:07:52 AM 3/03/09 “Wtf? Can't put a comment without getting slammed?” 10:12:54 AM 3/03/09 “Nemster is right. It will be slimy.” 10:15:36 AM 3/03/09 CD “Thank you. Snowed in again? Pasta is raw dough that is dried. I tried it once with the large shells to stuff them. They pretty much disentegrated. Slimy and floury.” 10:27:32 AM 3/03/09 “Nope, the roads looked pretty good today. Ramen noodles can be soaked without getting slimy, but they are cooked before they are dried. I make a cold "pasta" ramen salad where I rehydrate the ramen all day, along with dried veggies. (I use an old powered gatorade container to rehydrate the food because it's lightweight and the top screws on well. It should still be carried on the outside of your pack or in a ziplock, just in case...) In camp, I drain off the excess water, add a small can of chicken or ham, and either a small envelope of ranch or italian dressing. Mix together and Voila. Cold pasta salad and no cooking!” 10:40:07 AM 3/03/09 “I love dehydrating my own meals. Leftovers work great as long as there is not too much oil or fat in them. I even dehydrated cans of Progresso soup I figured out how much they weigh before then just add water to bring them back up to weight. I cook them on the stove first to boil out most of the water this seems to make it faster.” 10:41:47 AM 3/03/09 “that's a great idea CD...that'd be a good no cook lunch...i hate cooking for lunch” 10:45:39 AM 3/03/09 “Yeah, that sounds good.” 10:56:47 AM 3/03/09 “I don't cook for lunch but I absolutely love a hot dinner (and breakfast).” 11:05:18 AM 3/03/09 “I was cleaning out the backpacking cooking supply "box" last night for the first time in over a year. I was chucking a lot of stuff that had expired, but was looking at my dehyrated food in there (shoulda moved it to the freezer, but oh well) and it all looked good! Most of it was veggie. If it's not funky, been stored in a ziplock, should it be ok?” 11:09:51 AM 3/03/09 “hmmmmm...I used some on my last trip that was over a year old. The flavor seemed to have gone out of the veggies, but it didn't make me sick or anything. I would try some at home first.” 11:13:40 AM 3/03/09
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