The College Football thread

“Florida established 1856. I believe Georgia was established in the 1750's. William and Mary has the oldest law (puke) school in the nation.

Those records seem to keep going around and around in your head Buddah. Must be old 78 speed with a lot of scratches, nut-boy.”

“It's not our fault that the North could not maintain an education system after the 1940's, the records stand!”

“Florida established 1856, Georgia in the 1750's - burned by Sherman in 1864, rebuilt in 1940. lol

Let's just agree that we have the two best conferences in the country!

The PAC-10 sucks yo!”

“he broke! LOL!!!!”

“If more modern accomplishments can't be given more weight than the 1889 NC, then by that criteria, Rome is still the greatest empire.”

“lol Rad, Once I start using Civil War referances, I know it's time to stop.”

“that's REALLY funny, actually, because if you went back any further with those dates, my excuse was going to be because these southern football players were too busy fighting in the civil war! LOL!!!!!”

“Rock Chalk Jayhawk,
Go KU!

Oh, and K-State might have a good year.

Oh, Arclite and all of you Bubba's, they are all rankings at this time. Wait til the actual football begins!”

“I'm glad we finally have a subject I can debate. I don't know squat about hiking, yet.”

“Didn't we have the whole Alabama team of 64' in Andersonville at one time?”

“Andersonville? Are we talking 1864 or 1964”

“Here's another statistic they should keep. How many players arrested on nationally ranked teams each year? Nebraska has already had four this season, and they have played one game! They have a lot of thugs on most of those teams.”

“I'm guessing the Criminoles would come in second place behind Nebraska.”

“Bail bondsmen in Florida do their best business on game day!”

“FSU (Free Shoes University) definately has some problems!”

“Rad and Dude, I hope my team faces yours in Atlanta. In spite of last year, there in no group of people more optimistic than Bama fans in August. We're excited about the new coach. Fran Can.”

“Kleetn:

Huck the Fuskies,

GO COUGS!!”

“Traditionally, Buddah, the Big Ten and the SEC have had the toughest conferences top to bottom. I love yanking Big Ten fans' chains. They seem to think that football exists only in their conference contrary to all logic.

The fact is, the SEC has the best head-to-head record of any of the conferences. The Big Ten is the second best.

Most of those Big Ten championships came when it was an opinion poll. Remember when BYU won the national championship? The majority of sports writers are from the north. It's always been a skewed poll.

I doubt that Florida will win-out, their schedule is too tough. Next year we play Miami, FSU, and a full SEC slate. What we need is a playoff system. The SEC started the conference championship playoff, the Big 12 followed suit. Meanwhile, the PAC 10 and Big Ten were still tied to the Rose Bowl which became the worst of the bowl games.

This year, although they only have four schools in the top twenty five (Colorado St. isn't in the Big 12 is it?), the Big 12 is looking tough. After the '95 season, I made a promise never to disparage Nebraska even if they have a boring schedule and beat up on patsies all year. This year will be different. Texas has the easiest route in the conference but they still need to play Oklahoma. I'm looking forward to that game!”

“Yeah rad! You go boy!”

“I guess we can all have a good laugh when Arkansas whips Florida in the SEC Championship Game.

Woooo Pig Sooooie”

“
Ready to bury some SEC boys”

“who is that sheep farmer?”

“Don't count your chickens just yet, Bacpac. There are several teams that could (probably will) derail your plans for a trip to the GA Dome!

Dayhiker, there isn't a group of fans more likely to tar & feather their coach after only two losses either! I hope somebody sends your new coach a hard hat. ;-)”

“Either a sheep farmer or grave digger, rad. About the only job you could get after graduating from a school full of nuts. OSU players can't get jobs in the NFL anymore except as waterboys.”

“I think the media overplays how hard Bama fans are on the coach. The fans are hard, I just think that it's not as bad as it's made out. Bill Curry came out last month and said his advice would be to win every game and beat Auburn twice in the same year. Heck, Curry never even beat Auburn once. Dubose stayed on the hotseat. It also turns out that Dubose was the worst coach we've had in 50 years.”

“WalkinDude: You ain't gonna wear them damn GATOR colors when you hike with me, are you?”

“we'll ALL be wearin' them colors!”

“The color orange gives me hives, AU, TN, FL. Especially TN since we're on an 0-6 streak with those guys.”

“Funny... I hate the Florida orange and blue, but the Auburn orange & blue is really quite beautiful!

BTW, there are damn few school colors that would look anything but ridiculous as trail attire. Well maybe the orange would keep a hunter from shooting you. Unless the hunter is a Bama fan... Good trail fashion etiquette would dictate school affiliations be left to ball caps only!”

“I realize this is bad manners for most Bama fans, but I actually pull for Auburn except for 1 game a year. I pull for Bama first, then state schools, and then SEC.”

“Arclite, did you say "graduating"?

The balance of power in major college men's basketball and football would undergo upheaval under a proposal linking postseason eligibility to graduation rates, a computer-assisted analysis by The Des Moines Register shows.

Forty-five of the 69 men's basketball teams from the NCAA's top six conferences failed to graduate at least half their players from 1993-2000 and would have been ineligible for postseason play under a proposal made by the Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics.

The Register's analysis showed that three of the last five Associated Press football champs ? Florida, Oklahoma and Tennessee ? reported median graduation rates of less than 50% for the period.

He says the average graduation rate among athletes ? not including men's basketball and football ? is about 64%. The NCAA has acknowledged, however, that the national graduation rate is 34% for Division I basketball players and 48% for football players.

The Register's analysis showed that the conferences with the highest number of teams below the 50% minimum were the Big 12 and SEC. In each of those conferences, seven of the 12 members had median graduation rates less than 50%.

moooooooohahahaha!”

“The following site,http://espn.go.com/ncf/preview01/columns/herbstreit/1243118.html, is Kirk Herbstreit's top 5 in various categories. The last one listed is top 5 Gameday locations. #2 is any SEC school. Kirk didn't list a single Big 11 school. Kirk is a former OSU quarterback.”

“I'll have you know that I actually WEAR my Tennessee orange when I am hiking sometimes..”

“Sorry to disappoint, kleetn dear, but your stats seem to be as skewed as your political views. Florida graduates 76% of its football players. That's one of the highest rates. Some statistical polls count against graduation rate if a player leaves early to play in the pros. Florida has so many good athletes, that many do leave early to play professional ball. You quote a misleading statistic, but I shouldn't expect any less from you. You mislead me years ago. Oh the shame!”

“I suppose Florida was the only school that had any athletes leave early, eh?

Spin it baybeee, spin it!”

“No spin necessary kleety-bob. There was a big article in our paper a few weeks back. My info is fresh baby!”

“A beeeeg article? Who read it to you, Florida grad? HEEE HAWWW!

Have somebody read this to ya.... Bowl game winning percentages of Division I-A conferences updated after the 2000 season.

Pacific-10 .525
Atlantic Coast .515
Southeastern .513
Big Ten .511
Mid-American .500
Big 12 .482
Conference USA .478
Big East .474
Western Athletic .462
Big West .441
Mountain West .428”

“Those percentages do tell one side of the story. Here is another side: total bowl appearances.

Pac-10 176
ACC 161
SEC 300
Big 11 179
Mid America 33
Big 12 250

PAC-10 has won a slightly higher % of games, but the SEC and Big 12 have consistantly been the ones to be good enough to go to bowl games. This was particularly true for the days when the weren't as many bowl games. In those days it was truly and honor to go to a bowl game. Bama and UT are 1-2 in total bowl appearances.”

“Yo Towndawg
I wear my Gator colors regularly. If I got 'em on around you, don't take it personal. I'm just proud! My truck sports Gator stuff too.”

“Nice stats dayhiker. Kleetn, you and your vast left coast conspiracy will never convince true football fans that the PAC ten is as good as you seem to think.

Here we goooo!

Are ya ready for some football, Buddah? Lets look at silly statistics first. The Ivy League has won or shared 46 national championships dating back to 1869. Gee, I guess that makes the Ivy League the best league, huh? Now lets get to the meat, head-to-head match-ups in the bowls. You may want to copy these stats, Buddah, to show to your big ten buddies.


BOWL GAMES-

Sugar Bowl- 1975 (Bama 13, Penn St. 6); 1978 (Bama 35, Ohio St. 6); 1979 (Bama 14, Penn St. 7); 1983 (Penn St. 27, Georgia 23); 1984 (Auburn 9, Michigan 7)

Orange Bowl- 1938 (Auburn 6, Michigan St. 0); 1974 (Penn St. 16, LSU 9)

Fiesta Bowl- 1992 (Penn St. 42, Tennessee 17)

Gator Bowl- 1962 (Florida 17, Penn St. 7); 1983 (Florida 14, Iowa 6); 1989 (Georgia 34, Michigan St. 27); 1991 (Michigan 35, Mississippi 3)

Citrus Bowl- 1993 (Georgia 21, Ohio St. 14); 1994 (Penn St. 31, Tennessee 13); 1995 (Alabama 24, Ohio St. 17), 1996 (Tennessee 20, Ohio St. 14); 1997 ( Tennessee 48, Northwestern 28); 1998 (Florida 21, Penn St. 6); 1999 (Michigan 45, Arkansas 31), 2000 (Michigan St. 37, Florida 34)

Peach Bowl- 1982 (Iowa 28, Tennessee 22); 1988 (Tennessee 27, Indiana 22); 1990 (Auburn 27, Indiana 23)

Outback Bowl- 1988 (Michigan 28, Bama24); 1990 (Auburn 31, Ohio St. 14); 1996 (Penn St. 43, Auburn 14); 1997 (Bama 17, Michigan 14), 1998 (Georgia 33, Wisconson 6); 1999 (Penn St. 26, Kentucky 14); 2000 (Georgia 28, Purdue 25)

Liberty Bowl- 1959 (Penn St. 7, Bama 0), 1982 (Bama 21, Illinois 15); 1986 (Tennessee 21, Minnesota 14); 1988 (Indiana 34, South Carolina 10)

Independence Bowl- 1995 (LSU 45, Michigan St. 26)


SEC- 22 wins
big ten- 13 wins


Thank God, Penn State joined the league and was able to pad the stats of what was truly a pathetic conference.


Lets look at some more stats for the big ten folks who are having trouble with this concept.

Top 20 I-A college teams with most bowl appearances:
SEC- Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Arkansas, Mississippi, Florida, Auburn
big ten- Penn St., Ohio St., Michigan

Top 20 I-A college teams with most all-time victories:
SEC- Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn
big ten- Michigan, Penn St., Ohio St.

Top 25 I-A college teams with highest all-time winning percentage:
SEC- Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, Florida
big ten- Michigan, Ohio St., Penn St.


big ten = TOP HEAVY LOOOOOOOOOSERS!

SEC = TOUGHEST LEAGUE IN THE NATION TOP TO BOTTOM


?NUFF SAID!”

“All the stats are good but can we just watch some football.

GO GATORS!!!!!”

“On of the local Arkansas boys bought himself a Tenn. orange shirt at a flea market for hunting season.

He was shot a killed an hour after sun up.

They didn't gut him till halftime.”

“HAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Good one bacpac!!!!!!”

“Hey, dayhiker, I'm hoping Bammy is on the way back, also. My brother-in-law is a big fan, and it's sad watching him cry all the time. Go Tide!”

“Dunadan, I cried alot last year also. There's a new sheriff in town, and his name is Fran. Do you know how funny it is for good ole Alabama boys to try and pronounce Franchione. The ESPN fellas can't even get it right.”

“I had to revive this thread to call the Hogs before the UNLV game tonight, 6:30 CDT on ESPN.

Wooooo Pig Soooooie, Razorbacks

Matt, Please use your censorship powers if the Hogs lose.”